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Totas las discussions de 2016 son desenant archivadas. — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 24 genièr de 2017 a 08.26 (UTC)

New way to edit wikitext

Summary: There's a new opt-in Beta Feature of a wikitext mode for the visual editor. Please go try it out.

We in the Wikimedia Foundation's Editing department are responsible for making editing better for all our editors, new and experienced alike. We've been slowly improving the visual editor based on feedback, user tests, and feature requests. However, that doesn't work for all our user needs: whether you need to edit a wikitext talk page, create a template, or fix some broken reference syntax, sometimes you need to use wikitext, and many experienced editors prefer it.

Consequently, we've planned a "wikitext mode" for the visual editor for a long time. It provides as much of the visual editor's features as possible, for those times that you need or want wikitext. It has the same user interface as the visual editor, including the same toolbar across the top with the same buttons. It provides access to the citoid service for formatting citations, integrated search options for inserting images, and the ability to add new templates in a simple dialog. Like in the visual editor, if you paste in formatted text copied from another page, then formatting (such as bolding) will automatically be converted into wikitext.

All wikis now have access to this mode as a Beta Feature. When enabled, it replaces your existing wikitext editor everywhere. If you don't like it, you can reverse this at any time by turning off the Beta Feature in your preferences. We don't want to surprise anyone, so it's strictly an opt-in-only Beta Feature. It won't switch on automatically for anyone, even if you have previously checked the box to "Activar automaticament totas las novèlas foncionalitats en bèta".

The new wikitext edit mode is based on the visual editor, so it requires JavaScript (as does the current wikitext editor). It doesn't work with gadgets that have only been designed for the older one (and vice versa), so some users will miss gadgets they find important. We're happy to work with gadget authors to help them update their code to work with both editors. We're not planning to get rid of the current main wikitext editor on desktop in the foreseeable future. We're also not going to remove the existing ability to edit plain wikitext without JavaScript. Finally, though it should go without saying, if you prefer to continue using the current wikitext editor, then you may so do.

This is an early version, and we'd love to know what you think so we can make it better. Please leave feedback about the new mode on the feedback page. You may write comments in any language. Thank you.

James Forrester (Product Manager, Editing department, Wikimedia Foundation) --14 decembre de 2016 a 19.32 (UTC)

Use French for the interface when no translation is available

Please join the discussion. --Nemo bis (d) 28 decembre de 2016 a 19.57 (UTC)

Per de rasons istoricas, utilizar lo francés, en plaça de l'anglés, me sembla pas una idèa bòna sus aquest wikipèdia. --Nicolas Eynaud (d) 29 decembre de 2016 a 07.58 (UTC)

Thanks. gerrit:332544 (Catalan) was approved and will reach this wiki on the 26th. gerrit:329391 (French) is still open. Nemo bis (d) 24 genièr de 2017 a 06.42 (UTC)

Thanks Nemo for the update. — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 24 genièr de 2017 a 15.21 (UTC)

Clean-up finished

Today I've finished the radical clean-up of ocwiki. All articles without content that have been created by bot years ago are now deleted. Best regards and a happy new year to all users of Occitan Wikipedia. --Holder (d) 3 genièr de 2017 a 09.37 (UTC)

Thank you. --Nicolas Eynaud (d) 6 genièr de 2017 a 17.35 (UTC)

Thanks for your help Holder. --— Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 6 genièr de 2017 a 17.53 (UTC)

+1! I'm impressed. Nemo bis (d) 18 març de 2017 a 16.50 (UTC)

règlas per la transcripcion del chinés ?

Bonjorn a totes,

Me demandi se i a enluòc una règla per la transcripcion del chinés (mandarin), o benlèu d'autras lengas orientalas sus la Wikipèdia ? M'auriá agradat escriure per exemple un esbòç en:Qi, mas sai pas tròp cossí se deuriá apelar (e mai ai pas trobat aqueste mot dins cap diccionari occitan). En general cresètz que se pòdon aplicar los meteisses principis que en francés ? 109.215.169.84 (d) 22 genièr de 2017 a 08.28 (UTC)

Adieussiatz, la carta linguistica ne parla pas, mas per las lengas màgers i a ara d'estandards internacionals: per ex. en chinés lo pinyin, o en corean la romanizacion revisada. Lo romaji pel japonés es tanben pro espandit. Pel tai, es pas evident que la romanizacion "internacionala" es luènh de la romanizacion "nacionala" (RTGS), per ex. lo rèire-rei Phumiphon Adunyadet qu'èra "internacionalizat" en Bhumibol Adulyadej... Me sembla logic d'afavorir la causida de cada pòble e de se sarrar de la RTGS. — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 22 genièr de 2017 a 16.55 (UTC)

Mercés per ta responsa. Alara dins lo cas que mencionavi, s'ai plan comprés, l'article se deuriá nommar qì (transcripcion en pinyin se m'engani pas) ? Ai paur de far de bestiesas perque coneissi pas grand causa d'aquelas lengas mas cresi qu'es damatge de pas aver d'article sus de nocions tan importantas que me cresi capable d'explicar çaquelà. Vau ensajar de far un esboç pichonèl, veirem ben... --109.215.169.84 (d) 22 genièr de 2017 a 17.33 (UTC)

Especial:Imatges inutilizats ...

• Especial:Imatges inutilizats (60!)
• Categoria:Pagina prepausada a la supression (Fichièrs multimèdia dins la categoria ...)
• Especial:Paginas ligadas/Template:Delete
• Especial:Paginas ligadas/Template:NowCommons

23 genièr de 2017 a 04.32 (UTC)

Messatge depausat per un utilizaire anonim (85.181.63.94) e pas signat. — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 24 genièr de 2017 a 08.27 (UTC)

Adieussiatz. Vèni de senhalar a Holder qu'avèm votat e acceptat de cargar en local los imatges de blasons e de logos que son "copyright" mas pòdon èsser afichats segond las règlas del "fair use". Retipam aital los usatges de las wp francesa (logos de regions) e italiana (escuts de comunas). Per cargar los imatges EN LOCAL (e pas sus Commons que serián escafats), vos cal anar sus aquela pagina. — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 24 genièr de 2017 a 08.20 (UTC)

But you must use the files, otherwise there is no fair use. And you must link to the source and mention the author. Fichièr:Olivetta San Michele-Stemma.png which you undeleted is not used anywhere. 85.180.90.118 (d) 24 genièr de 2017 a 13.12 (UTC)

It is on the Auřivéta_San_Michèe page, but the infobox is not working properly. So I just added another image on the same page. We'd reeally appreciate to discuss with an authentified user, by the way (and eventually to get help on fixing our infoboxes). — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 24 genièr de 2017 a 14.53 (UTC)

Intercultur

Hello

Between 1 and 28 February is organized the Intercultur contest, consisting of translating Wikipedia articles among the various languages spoken in Spain.

In the Iberian peninsula many languages have their own version of Wikipedia, including Aragonese, Asturian, Castilian, Catalan, Basque, Extremadurian, Galician and Occitan. The contest will therefore consist of translating as many articles as possible into these eight languages from those suggested in the starting list.

To participate in the contest it is necessary to have an account on Wikipedia and sign on the contest page. In this you also can find the list of proposed articles and the scoring rules. Best. --Rubén Ojeda (WMES) (d) 1 febrièr de 2017 a 09.22 (UTC)

Comunautat d'Aglomeracion deu País Basco - CAPB

Hi. Bon dia / Egun on. I'm a user of Basque Wikipedia, so sorry for don't speak gascon, and my french level is basic (A1), so I'll write in english. Comunautat d'Aglomeracion deu País Basco - CAPB / Euskal Herriko Hirigune Elkargoa - EHHE has been created in Baiona with the villages of Nothern Basque Country on 1 January 2017, and one of the language of that institution is gascon. So, I think that it will be fine that the Occitan Wikipedian would have an article of that institution. Adiu / Agur. Euskaldunaa (d) 2 febrièr de 2017 a 03.59 (UTC)

Egun on. The article has been created. Agur. — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 2 febrièr de 2017 a 07.10 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge Multilingualism

Cartelli bilingue? feste di Paese? Eventi culturali seri? Sbizzarritevi: Bilingual plate? Local festivals? Serious cultural events? Be creative:

commons:Commons:Photo_challenge/Submitting#2017_.E2.80.93_February_.E2.80.93_Multilingualism

Più bella la foto, maggiore la diffusione. Si vince solo un gagliardetto. The nicer the picture, the bigger its diffusion. You just win a barnstar.--Alexmar983 (d) 2 febrièr de 2017 a 06.53 (UTC)

Modèle e Modul

Adissiatz,
Soi a actualizar los modèls e los moduls de nòstra wikipèdia ; aquò pòt provocar, temporàriament qualques problèmas. Vos mercegi de vòstra paciéncia e vòstra venvolença.
Coralament --Cedric31 (d) 5 febrièr de 2017 a 10.51 (UTC)

Òc-a-ton

Ai legit dins la premsa especializada que qualques unes de vautres avián participat al wikiton de l'Inòc. Me podètz dire çò que n'avètz pensat e cossí s'es passat, svp ?
Ai legit las interrogacions d'unes wikipedians nòstres que s'estonavan que la comunautat nòstra foguèsse pas consultada per l'organizacion d'aquel eveniment, ni per l'Inòc, ni per l'associacion Wikimédia France, qualques reaccions èran regdas quitament.
Ai lo sentiment que nos caldriá prene contacte amb Wikimédia per evitar qu'aquò se reproduguèsse e per melhor contrarotlar l'utilizacion, la difusion e la valorizacion del trabalh nòstre. L'idèa, evocada mai d'un còp d'una antena occitana de Wikimédia meritariá d'èsser repausada. Qué ne pensatz ? --Cedric31 (d) 5 febrièr de 2017 a 11.01 (UTC)

Adieu Cedric. Faguèri una presentacion de la wikipèdia occitana (de luènh, amb Framatalk). Me sembla francament que Wikimédia France viu un pauc sa vida d'associacion subvencionada e ensaja de se far vesedoira cap a las lengas "regionalas". Vesi pas clarament çò que nos pòt portar per ara. Ai quitament pas idèa de las convencions que signèron amb l'InOc o lo Congrès. Qu'es pas Wikimèdia France que fa lo trabalh sus la Wikipèdia occitana. Ni tanpauc los organismes qu'organizèron la trobada. Alara, puslèu que de crear una enenca associacion, seriá pas melhor d'utilizar Tot en Òc per çò faire? Amistats. — Joan Francés Blanc (me´n parlar) 7 febrièr de 2017 a 17.40 (UTC)

En tant qu'Administrator-Burocrata, ai escrit a Wikimédia France per lor demandar qualques explicacions, e en particular per ne saber mai sul contengut de la convencion amb l'INÒC que ne sabèm pas res... Lor ai demandat d'evitar, d'ara enlà, d'organizar causas a prepaus de nòstres projèctes sens nos consultar, ai prepausat que nòstra comunautat siá representada al CA de lor asso per facilitar los escambis... Nos prepausan un rencontre a Tolosa, i a de volontaris. Vos teni al fial. --Cedric31 (d) 17 febrièr de 2017 a 12.34 (UTC)

Adissiatz. M'an respondut que nos podián rencontrar e nos comunicar la convencion signada amb l'INOC e lo CPLO. I a monde interessats per los rencontrar ? Siquenon, de qué fasèm ? Reavii la discussion de qualques ans fa sus la creacion d'una asso wikimèdia occitana ? Coralament --Cedric31 (d) 23 febrièr de 2017 a 15.46 (UTC)

ːAdissaitz, Wikimedia France m'a recontactat per me far veire la convencion signada amb los partenaris de l'octon. La pòdi far passar a los que serián interessats. Coralament --Cedric31 (d) 10 abril de 2017 a 06.20 (UTC)

Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.

This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.

The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:

• Update 1 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (15 December 2016)
  • Introduction to process and information about budget spending resolution to support it
• Update 2 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (23 December 2016)
  • Start of search for Lead Architect for movement strategy process
• Update 3 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (8 January 2017)
  • Plans for strategy sessions at upcoming Wikimedia Conference 2017
• Update 4 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (11 January 2017)
  • Introduction of williamsworks
• Update 5 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (2 February 2017)
  • The core movement strategy team, team tracks being developed, introduction of the Community Process Steering Committee, discussions at WikiIndaba conference 2017 and the Wikimedia movement affiliates executive directors gathering in Switzerland
• Update 6 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (10 February 2017)
  • Tracks A & B process prototypes and providing feedback, updates on development of all four Tracks

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

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Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

• Update 7 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (16 February 2017)
  • Development of documentation for Tracks A & B
• Update 8 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (24 February 2017)
  • Introduction of Track Leads for all four audience tracks
• Update 9 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (2 March 2017)
  • Seeking feedback on documents being used to help facilitate upcoming community discussions

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

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Pere Verdaguer

Hola, he volgut posar una foto a l'article d'en Pere Verdaguer i he espatllat la infotaula. Com ho puc arreglar? Gràcies--Paputx (d) 17 març de 2017 a 07.21 (UTC)

Ja ho he resolt. Gràcies!--Paputx (d) 17 març de 2017 a 07.27 (UTC)

Corrector ortografic d'occitan-lengadocian

Adissiatz,

Aquí un pichon present en avantprimièra de la part Tot en Òc. Dètz ans apuèi la sortida de la version bèta, sortís enfin la version 1 del corrector ortografic d'occitan-lengadocian per Libreoffice ǃ Lo podètz telecargar e tanben i contribuir ǃ Amistats --Cedric31 (d) 17 març de 2017 a 13.12 (UTC)

We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)

This message, "We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)", was sent through multiple channels by Gregory Varnum on 15 and 16 of March 2017 to village pumps, affiliate talk pages, movement mailing lists, and MassMessage groups. A similar message was sent by Nicole Ebber to organized groups and their mailing lists on 15 of March 2017. This version of the message is available for translation and documentation purposes

Dear Wikimedians/Wikipedians:

Today we are starting a broad discussion to define Wikimedia's future role in the world and develop a collaborative strategy to fulfill that role. You are warmly invited to join the conversation.

There are many ways to participate, by joining an existing conversation or starting your own:

Track A (organized groups): Discussions with your affiliate, committee or other organized group (these are groups that support the Wikimedia movement).

Track B (individual contributors): On Meta or your local language or project wiki.

This is the first of three conversations, and it will run between now and April 15. The purpose of cycle 1 is to discuss the future of the movement and generate major themes around potential directions. What do we want to build or achieve together over the next 15 years?

We welcome you, as we create this conversation together, and look forward to broad and diverse participation from all parts of our movement.

• Find out more about the movement strategy process
• Learn more about volunteering to be a Discussion Coordinator

Sincerely,

Nicole Ebber (Track A Lead), Jaime Anstee (Track B Lead), & the engagement support teams

18 març de 2017 a 05.09 (UTC)

Proposez des logos pour la Wikiconvention francophone

Bonjour à toutes et tous,

La seconde édition de la WikiConvention francophone se déroulera du 19 au 21 octobre 2017 à la Maison de la Région Grand-Est à Strasbourg. Toutes les informations disponibles sont déjà présentes sur Meta-Wiki. Pour rappel, la Wikiconvention est un rassemblement des contributeurs et contributrices francophones des différents projets (Wikipédia, Commons, Wiktionnaire, etc.) ; la première édition a eu lieu à Paris en 2016 et était réussie.

La petite équipe de contributeurs bénévoles qui organise cette deuxième édition aurait besoin d'un logo générique pour la Wikiconvention, et de sa déclinaison pour cette édition. Vos propositions de logos sont les bienvenues sur Meta-Wiki. Elles peuvent être déposées jusqu'au mercredi 19 avril (via cette catégorie Commons).

Vous êtes aussi invités à voter pour votre logo préféré, jusqu'au 26 avril.

Merci beaucoup pour votre aide !

Xenophôn (d) 5 abril de 2017 a 14.09 (UTC)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections

Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.

The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.

The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).

We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.

Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.

The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.

The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.

• April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
• April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
• April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
• May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
• May 15–19 – Board vote checking
• May 20 – Board result announcement goal

In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:

• Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
  • There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

• Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
  • One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.

More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-electionswikimedia.org.

On behalf of the Election Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation

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